[...] them on the agenda outline posts on the WordPress development updates blog. For example, Jane is currently taking submissions for items to be discussed during the July 22nd meeting which is this Wednesday. So far, meta tables [...]
Discuss closure of 2.0.x branch—I want to write a post on the .org blog officially announcing it and touching on some of the reasons why the branch was difficult to support in the last couple of years (mostly because the time period was so long that it made it impossible to keep up with security changes that weren’t just tweaks, but total rethinks of the way we handle certain stuff).
Explain my high level idea for reworking capabilities/roles and discuss potential shortcomings.
We started the 2.0 LTS branch before it went into Debian, IIRC. The two things weren’t completely linked. Debian involvement was a royal pain in the butt and had no upsides that I could see (as much as it pains me to say that about my favorite distro).
The main problem was that the security changes going into trunk were so huge and interconnected with other stuff that merging them into 2.0 was a daunting task, because it wouldn’t just be adapting a patch, but writing completely new code to solve the problem in a way that didn’t depend on all the new stuff available in trunk. It got to the point that we had to say “this minor security issue is just not solvable in the 2.0 branch without disruptive changes” and once enough of those piled up, it seemed like a lost cause.
Five years is an eternity in this space—it was an unrealistic goal from the outset.
Jane Wells 10:14 pm on July 15, 2009 Permalink |
Meta tables, per DD32 last week.
Denis de Bernardy 10:14 pm on July 15, 2009 Permalink |
So, RT last week: the meta tables stuff.
Denis de Bernardy 10:16 pm on July 15, 2009 Permalink |
Possibly re-discuss committer workflow with rboren (and ideally matt) around. I think the key points were made today, though.
Jane Wells 4:09 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Ryan won’t be at today’s meeting due to a family emergency. Let’s hold this until next week.
Contribute To The Meeting Agenda 7:01 pm on July 20, 2009 Permalink |
[...] them on the agenda outline posts on the WordPress development updates blog. For example, Jane is currently taking submissions for items to be discussed during the July 22nd meeting which is this Wednesday. So far, meta tables [...]
banago 1:48 pm on July 21, 2009 Permalink |
I have several suggestions – am I still in time?
Jane Wells 9:03 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Agenda already up when this comment posted, can add to next week.
Matt 2:22 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Discuss change in time for meeting as per results of whenisgood.net
Jane Wells 9:03 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Already on agenda, above.
Mark Jaquith 3:45 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Discuss closure of 2.0.x branch—I want to write a post on the .org blog officially announcing it and touching on some of the reasons why the branch was difficult to support in the last couple of years (mostly because the time period was so long that it made it impossible to keep up with security changes that weren’t just tweaks, but total rethinks of the way we handle certain stuff).
Explain my high level idea for reworking capabilities/roles and discuss potential shortcomings.
Jane Wells 4:10 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
Sounds good.
Denis de Bernardy 5:28 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink |
I thought it was dropped from Debian already?
Mark Jaquith 6:16 pm on July 22, 2009 Permalink
We started the 2.0 LTS branch before it went into Debian, IIRC. The two things weren’t completely linked. Debian involvement was a royal pain in the butt and had no upsides that I could see (as much as it pains me to say that about my favorite distro).
The main problem was that the security changes going into trunk were so huge and interconnected with other stuff that merging them into 2.0 was a daunting task, because it wouldn’t just be adapting a patch, but writing completely new code to solve the problem in a way that didn’t depend on all the new stuff available in trunk. It got to the point that we had to say “this minor security issue is just not solvable in the 2.0 branch without disruptive changes” and once enough of those piled up, it seemed like a lost cause.
Five years is an eternity in this space—it was an unrealistic goal from the outset.